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  • et Han of Astora

    Anything to support the Thalmor's downfall

  • COOKIE WOKE

    I always tricked her just because it was easier than fighting 4 guys at once in a cave.

  • Yum vs. Yuck

    I think i remember killing all the Alik’r warriors because they killed my dog and then i killed Saadia because i was annoyed that she sent me there and got my dog killed.

  • Old Longfellow

    You make a compelling case with evidence and reason.....however, saadia has bobs and vagene and they also make a compelling case

  • jjfajen

    My favorite line of dialogue in this quest is when Sadia pulls out an iron dagger and says,"I'll cut you in half!" While I'm wearing steel plate armor.

  • mimi love

    What if they were lovers, one betrayed the other and it became a chase? 😂 So they would both just lie 😁

  • Logan Y.

    I side with Kematu usually, he seems wayyy to honorable and just overall nice to be an assassin. Also, his story makes more sense. But, I have to say, and I wish there was a dialogue option for this, the Alik’r in jail really favors Saadia’s story more. He makes the Alik’r seem much more radical and deceiving, saying, “i shouldn’t have been caught” implying the Alik’r were doing something bad enough to be put in jail. He also says that the second the Dragonborn goes to Swindler’s Den the Alik’r will kill him, which sounds a lot more like a group of violent assassins to me. When you get to the cave, you kill lots of bandits, and then finally meet the Alik’r and Kematu. Kematu says, “You have proven your strength in battle, and there does not need to be anymore bloodshed today.” This implies that Alik’r actually either had a pact or something of some sort with the bandits, as bandits attack almost anyone on sight- but the Alikr knew of their existence and were left unharmed. Also, the way the line, “there does not need to be any more bloodshed today” is phrased just feels like Kematu had met some of this bandits. It is possible that Kematu knew that the Dragonborn was powerful, maybe powerful enough to kill him and the Alik’r and decided to make peace, make up his own story, and play along so there is a chance that the Dragonborn helps Kematu reach his goals instead of the Dragonborn becoming a roadblock.Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of holes in Saadia’s story but all the Alik’r in the game (with the exception of Kematu, since I hypothesize he is acting) are very radical, and often invading if not violent.

  • river rat

    i used to turn her in, but after installing the mod 'amorous adventures', i now have very good reasons to save her.

  • uumlau

    My head-canon is that both sides are lying. Both sides claim to be against the Aldmeri Dominion. Saadia/Iman is THE person who caused an entire city to fall?! I really doubt that. And if she were to have done that, she clearly didn't get paid enough.Instead, I think what is going on is politics between noble houses in Hammerfell. One possibility is that there was some kind of minor offense, such as Saadia refusing the advances of some noble scion, and he uses his influence to fake charges and ruin her life. In such a scenario, the mercenaries are "honest", but their actions are an unjust consequence of the politics.Another possibility, a bit more likely in my estimation, is that some noble wants Saadia for his own purposes (could be anything from wanting her as a concubine or perhaps she knows something critical and that knowledge would be lost if she is killed) and has hired mercenaries to enact his will. I think this is a bit more likely because the mercenaries aren't approaching the problem as a diplomatic issue. Skyrim is no fan of the Aldmeri Dominion, so it should be easy to make diplomatic advances to the Jarl and enlist the Whiterun guard to help out. But no, they manage to make themselves entirely unwelcome by sneaking in acting more or less like thieves or bandits and not as the representatives of noble houses in Hammerfell. The only reason that they would fail to do so from the outset is that they know their story won't hold up if anyone makes an official inquiry.Saadia's lies come across to me like the lies that an abused woman tells. Her beauty plus her scars plus her pulling out the dagger add to this impression of mine. Note that a dagger is a pathetic weapon against a warrior or mage who wants to kill her, but is EXTREMELY effective as a weapon against someone trying to rape her. Kematu's lies come across to me as someone trying to sound more official than he really is.That all said, I think that this still being debated almost 7 years after the game was released tells us that this quest was designed JUST RIGHT. The writers purposefully don't give you enough information. People are as likely to believe one side as the other. You have to use your own judgment, and there is nothing else in the game that nails down what the "correct" interpretation is. This is why people still play this game.

  • Reggie the bunkler

    Saadia is actually a real Arabic name (I know this because that’s the name of my friend’s sister) and it’s not pronounced sayda it’s pronounced saa-dei-a, just wanted to point that out

  • CDV3

    But evidence against Kematu is kind of stacked too. Why would honorable warriors like the Alik’r form a pact with bandits and set up, deep in a cave (why not just camp out near falkreath or somewhere?)? Secondly, Kematu clearly expected the bandits to be more than enough to handle any intruders who came looking for him and his men, but when he saw that the Dragonborn could tear through them like nothing, he quickly decided to try and talk his way out of a fight. If the Dragonborn does decided to attack him and his men, of course they’ll act in self defense, but Kematu knew from the second the Dragonborn walked in that he was a dead man if he couldn’t use persuasion. Perhaps after Taneth was captured by the Aldmerri Dominion (Not due to Saadia), the elves gave the Alik’r warriors of the City-State the choice to either fight for them or be executed, so of course dishonest men like Kematu would rather sell out than die. As for the ending when Kematu paralyzes her to take her back to Hammerfell, he could simply be acting to keep up his ruse to you (though this is a stretch).For me personally, I love sword fights and the Alik’r are great swordsman. I can never pass up the chance to fight them. Although when I’m playing a thief, I usually double-cross Saadia.P.S. your game looks amazing, what mods are those?

  • Dexter Nelson

    Lol. My comment explaining why she's innocent keeps getting deleted. Touchy, touchy

  • MarvelDCFanGal

    Am I the only one who decided to save Saadia simply because I wanted the loot in Swindler's Den?

  • Archer Langfield

    The Alikr are hella shady. They act like mercenaries. They hide out in "SWINDLERS" Den. Nothing about what they say make sense, but that's just me.

  • Helder Julio

    I always knew She was guilty, and the hammerfelt "Assassin's" was the right side. However Skyrim have soo low beautiful redguard females, even with scarrs in the face. When i Saw saadia First time, before that mission beginns, ive fall in love of her. Painfull, making that mission, i was enable ot killing or givin her to the redguards. So, ive sided with her, knowing She was a bad girl. After the conclusion ot the mission and the dead of the redguards, i have used One mod who made her a strong near immortal companion. She beginns to Share my adventures. Long after i used other mod of marriage. Yeap, i had married with saadia. Finally i used a third mod, who clean her face of that sexy scarrs. My marriage present to her. And She is the most beautiful and sexy woman in Skyrim...even if she was bad as a snake girl. Now, me, Saadia, Lucia and Sofie, we are a happy family!...(alternative ending).

  • Bjeh King

    I always knew Saadia was evil from the start. But she's so sexy, I take her side on every play-through.

  • Jonathan Yanesa

    The game is almost 8 years old but someone's still doing reviews/gameplays for it.That's how you know if a game is golden 😍

  • Mr. I Get Girls

    I choose to keep Saadia safe because she's literally one of the only female red guards in the game and the red guards are sexy as hell and the strongest race besides the argonians

  • Fuchs Raeude

    I always side with Saadia. Better than doing the work for this incompetent, bearded, ugly band of sand fleas that think they can harass and boss around Skyrim's people! Even if Saadia was guilty, she can't do any damage now that she is on her own. Plus, I make up my own reality about what is right (when there is no definite proof)! PLUS..., she is eye candy!

  • lalybum

    He is lying too, if she sided with the High Elves she would run to them, not to Skyrim, specially with her habilities to hide herself. I think there is a lot more into this. Her scars were probably made on her face intentional, she was probably captured at some point and someone did this to "destroy her beauty" since she looks like a woman who cares a lot for it.I don't think any of them are good people, the prisoner talked as if this Kematu was like a Devil. There is a lot of possibilities, but her version and his versions are both lies, she could have fled from a marriage for example. Or she could have killed some influential person, like a man with status, this would count as treason and would explain her scars too.Maybe some rich douchbag tried something funny with this woman, and since she is not easy going she attacked him, and received a scar, than she killed him out of fury, and since he was influential his family sent Elite Soldiers after her. This also explains WHY THEY WANT HER ALIVE, if she just sided with the Dominion they could capture her, turture her to death and bring her head back there is no need to judge someone already proven a traitor, but they don't want this, they want her alive to probably bring her to someone else do something with her. Like some family member wanting revenge? If she sided with the Dominion it would be impossible for her to flee from Hamerfell since she would become enemy of literally everyone there. I really think someone with influence wants her back to kill her in a not good way, my bet is what I said but can be other reason too. But the Fairy Tale told by both all lies.And one of the main points that tells he is lying he mentions a Bounty, he would not receive a bounty for capturing someone acussed of treason, he would probably be a National Soldier, but he isn't he is a Mercenary, and by his clothes a really expensive Mercenary. And she is not a calculting woman as he make her sound, since she trusts you way too easy.And his final phrase saying you should not be fooled that you are "better than that" that's clearly making fun of your face LUL

  • Holding

    I side with Saadia every playthrough for several reason:1. That chick is hot2. There's a Bosmer named Malborn that help you sneak your gears in to the Thalmor Embassy during the main quest. If you manage to help him escape alive, you will encounter him later at the New Gnisis Cornerclub in Windhelm. He's trying to find a way fleeing to Morrowind but a Khajit assassin being sent by the Thalmor camping waiting for him at the Windhelm main entraince. He askes the Dragonborn for help. The assassin wearing exactly like a typical Khajit drug dealer.I trusted Malborn. The case is similar with Saadia's, but the difference is that you already know about Malborn's story.3. It's Skyrim, there is a bunch of strangers running in to your land wearing weapons trying to kill another stranger asking for your help, will you let it happen?

  • beepbeep

    Its literally just come out that Zenimax has trademarked the name "Redfall", and its fact that since Morrowind, Bethesda have been putting hints/easter eggs in previous games about what the next TES game will be about. If this is to be believed and TES 6 is really set in Hammerfell as the name "Redfall" suggests, could this be the hint/easter egg we've been looking for? That this game is about Hammerfell and the Thalmor?

  • Satou Kazuma

    Not really a hard decision in my perspective... Considering how there’s white knights everywhere, that gets tempted because of her gender

  • OD-X

    I have to take some umbrage with some of your conclusions. 1. You say why would anyone fleeing the Aldmeri to flee to Skyrim, but where else would someone flee. The Nords despise the Dominion and the Concordant. So I feel that is the best place to hide. Yes they are present in Skyrim, but the Dominion is despised. I mean in Whiterun, even though they side with the Empire Balgruf allows the open worship of Talos. Second you talk about how manipulitive she is, but Kematu is every bit as manipulative. The Alikr are just thugs, maybe not assassins, but they have been paid to hunt her down. And you say because they are suppose to return alive the are more honorable, but what if that is what there contract calls for, because the Dominion that controls Tenith, want to torture her for more knowledge on the resistance. I mean that is every bit as plausible as your theory. As to sending mercenary Alikr versus sending a Dominion assassin, Aldmeri are not allowed to move openly in Skyrim. I think the outcome and guilt is specifically left ambiguous by Bethesda. Probably because they want you to question your decision no matter.

  • Scott Hadden

    Most of the "evidence" for both sides are almost entirely circumstantial, there is no clear cut, this side is guilty. For one, an Assassin is simply a hired killer, the fact that the Alik'r are willing to shack up with bandits kind of says they either have very low living standards or aren't exactly loved by the law themselves. Why would the Alik'r, which if what you're saying are a mercenary company, hire bandits, who will flip on them for a better offer, to protect/conceal their location, which you can actually hear two bandits discussing if you remain undetected. The place they live is also quite clearly meant to make you distrust the Alik'r, Swindler's Den. A swindler being someone who cons you out of a prize or reward, and a den being a home, so the Alik'r basically live in a house for conmen. Further, if Saadia really did sell out Taneth, her first port of call would be Cyrodiil, not Skyrim, because a) it's geographically closer than the closest city in Skyrim and b) would make her unable to be sent back to Hammerfell, as Cyrodiil is a stable region of the Empire, and Hammerfell is no longer part of the empire, it has no influence, even mercenaries in the employ of returning someone there would be prevented from doing so.

  • MiniKitty Gaming

    I always side with Kematu. It's faster.-Talk to Saadia-Go to Rorikstead-Talk with The Ali'kr-Bring her to stables-Done

  • Sul

    Why are you unable to pronounce 'Saadia' correctly? They even say it in-game. Do you have some sort of disability?

  • Professor Bearington

    1 NPC walking around in a tavern that you possibly can see everyday vs 4 people that you will never see again. I like the city being as populated as possible.

  • Jacob Riché

    I always side with her even if I know she's guilty. She's a citizen of Whiterun and I protect my own. Plus I like her service at the Bannered Mare. Eh I've killed for less.

  • Kurt Revail

    I always help Saadia for a very specific group reasons.1. Kematu ain't foolin nobody with that 'bring her to justice' crap, he's just a bounty hunter they probably gave him the old 'half now half later' bit, he brings her as corpse he gets the other half of his pay, but if he brings her in unspoiled he gets a nice little bonus.2. the Alik'r were rude...didn't appreciate that shit..., and that whole business with her pulling a knife on me was understandable to be honest I would have been more suspicious of her if she didn't.and of course the most important reason of all.3. either one of them could have been lying and I didn't have enough info to know which of them was the bullshiter but there was one thing I knew to be true, if she goes with him she's dead. bonus reason4. she hired me first so unfortunately for him I had a job do. ( 4 is more of a guide line then a actual reasons.)

  • Fatguyatwork26

    Never trust Saadia... And most importantly Never Trust a Lusty Argonian Maid

  • Communist Potato

    oH lOoK aT T H a t I HavE SeEmEd t O hAvE lOsT mY k E Y s

  • Megis Channel

    Saadia used her female beauty to deceive the last dragonborn man.Never trust anyone who tries to use sexual perversiveness and/or beauty to get someone to do something.

  • Ryk Latortuga

    Saadia got me a frosty frothy pint of Honningbrew Mead the first time I walked into the Bannered Mare.  So she has to be cool. Kematu  - milk drinker.

  • equesdeventusoccasus

    I think that they both are lying, but with elements of the truth in their tales. She does sound and act like a noble. On the other hand if she really was the traitor he claimed, Kematu's orders would have allowed for the possibility that she wouldn't come willingly and would fight to the death rather than return to face justice. Nobody would care if the traitor died along the way. Finally why did Kematu hit her with a paralysis spell when they met perhaps to keep her from running, but he made no move to put her in restraints before she came out of it (and those spells are always short lived.) It's almost as if he simply didn't want her speaking while you were around. Finally, when you hand her over, he says they can finally return home. When you kill her in front of him he says you ruined everything.If he and his men were sent off by a parent(s) to retrieve their daughter, especially if said parents blamed Kematu, for their daughter's disappearance, like say if she eloped with one of his men, the parents would be likely to say don't return without her safe and sound. If the city fell while they were away chasing her Kematu might blame her for the fall because he and his men could have made the difference. If in a previous encounter, Kematu killed her love, she would feel justified calling him and his men assassins. Given standard Elder Scrolls in game books and tales, this is a very likely scenario. It also plays well with the, "which side do you choose," aviance Skyrim has. It places her in a better light than Kematu. I say this because, from the Redguard point of view (referencing the description Trayvond from Oblivion gave of their culture's view of magic users being similar to the Nords) Kematu probably would not have been popular in Hammerfell. Magic wasn't forbidden to a Redguard, but they were despised if they used it. Making the Alik'r very unusual Redguards. One, if one was Redguard, might even think that if they would stoop to magic use, how far from assassins could they be? Especially if you were in love with someone that a magic using warrior killed.

  • Rocket League Watafak

    IF SHE BREATHS SHE`S A T H O T

  • Graveside Poet

    I let her live. I’m an orc: she payed me to help her, so I helped her. Right or wrong dosent come into it

  • Chris Mancini

    This quest to me was one where Kematu is most likely in the right but I will side with Saadia anyway because 1. You get the Alik'r scimtars and gear after killing them and thats cool2. the more combat the better at early levels, easily levels combat skills against 7 guys3. You get more gold, the 500 Saadia pays you plus the 250 (I think) on Kematus body. more than just 500 Kematu will give for siding with him4. Saadia will remain in the game and as a merchant too, yea she only sells food items, but the alternative has both Saadia and Alik'r just leaving to never be seen again.5. Worst case scenario if you still hate Saadia she can be a free kill for Ebony blade or something, Idk get creative.

  • Ryan Gessler

    Unfortunately I'm extremely poor buddy but I love you. And wish the best for you. I'm not really poor buddy,I just can't give you money for something that I myself don't have time to do and would love to. Tell you what. I'm working on something extremely huge right now seriously. I'm on track to make 260k this year. I'm a entrepreneur and the following year will be 480k and in 2020 I'll be on track to gross over a million usd. When that happens I'll build your dream game room with a budget of 60k usd but you have to invite me over for dinner otherwise that deal isn't a option. Seriously I'm not joking about the situation. Now it's going to be up to you to decide what to do in your actual real life.

  • hakim

    Since bethesda is re-releasing skyrim they should make the visuals and graphics like this

  • AskingMaaike

    4:23 At first she was all surprised that the Alik'r were in the city and then suddenly she heard one of them just got locked up? 🤨

  • The Third Crusader

    Both sides lie to some extent.Let's take Saadia at her word. She spoke out against the Dominion. The Alik'r are assassins. She's on the run. She's a no be of house Suda in Hammerfell.That makes no sense because the Dominion wouldn't hire the Alik'r, because they invaded them and were sent packing. The Alik'r are, at most, mercenaries, but no matter how much money they were offered they wouldn't work for the Dominion. Besides, it would be more cost effective for the Dominion to send out a hit squad of their own. If your a noble wouldn't you be under protection from your house, or at least be able to hire some help, like, say... THE ALIK'RNow let's assume Kematu is telling the truth. Saadia is a traitor and sold Taneth out to the Aldmeri Dominion. They are bounty hunter here to capture her.They are in Swindlers Den surrounded and guarded by paid off bandits. While it's not entirly honorable it doesn't mean they're evil either. Saadia sold Taneth out, why go to Skyrim? Would she not seek the protection of the Dominion? Something doesn't make sense, either Saadia is lying about them being assassins or Kematu is lying about Saadia selling Taneth out....that or Saadia has a limited sense of self preservation.I usually kill Kematu AFTER telling him to meet me at the Whiterun stables. There I can take him on alone and get around 200 gold from his corpse and receive the 500 or so gold from Saadia. 700 in total 1,000 if you let Kematu go through with it, kill him, and calm Saadia. I just never have a calm spell or the magicka to cast it. Plus, I took out some sellsword competition. For I am also an Alik'r Mercenary.

  • gilathir

    I don't disagree, but there are some flaws. Consider. She threatens you yes, but is stuttering when she does it. This is clearly not a woman that has EVER killed anyone with her own hands. She trusts you. Enough to walk into a trap just on your say so. And most importantly of all, she betrayed her city, but apparently got nothing out of it. She, a noble woman from Hammerfell is serving sweaty Nords beer in a backwater like Skyrim. So if she did do it, then why? Not for power or gold. Then consider Kematu. The guy in the prison says, "If you know that name then you know it means death." Or something like that. They break the law of Whiterun in an attempt to enter, assault Red Guard women on the road. He's pretty much a cold blooded killer who will do anything to achieve his objective. Let's not delude ourselves if his orders had been to kill her, he would have. So is she a traitor that betrayed her people. probably, but WHY? And is her going back to be publicly executed by someone like Kematu justice? Maybe not. It all hinges in that WHY. Did she betray her people in the hopes of using the Aldemarri Dominion, (That might not be spelled right), to overthrow corrupt leaders and noble houses? To gain vengeance against them for some reason? Without the WHY, you don't know what is truly Justice here. Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. But I always side with her, just because I don't like Kematu's style. Enjoy playing Skyrim guys.

  • Pandora Night

    I've actually never seen the interaction between the whiterun gurd and redguards. I've just seen redguard worriors every once in a while and "oh cool, them" then continued doing whatever

  • J. Jonah Jameson

    One interesting sidenote, if you turn Saadia in and check the Hall of the Dead in Whiterun later, you find her remains and belongings in a casket. I thought you were just bringing her back to Hammerfell alive to stand trial, Kematu? Was that a lie too?I'm personally of the opinion that neither side is truly aligned with the Thalmor and both sides are lying about the other being so to elicit sympathy, and the truth is it's just Redguard internal politics spilling over the border.In which case, it becomes a question of power dynamics. It's several heavily armed assassins vs. a possibly innocent woman on her own in a foreign country. And I never punch down.

  • josh lawton

    Fight 5 guys to save her and get no special dialogue. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

  • Cult Of Foxes Gaming

    Her beauty always gets me tho!😅

  • Connor Nicholas

    For some reason, whatever mod or mods you're using makes the facial animations poorer.

  • Stuart Ward

    I normally side with Kematu for 3 reasons.1) the Dominion normally send their own people whenever they want someone dead instead of hiring mercenaries to do it for them.2) the Alik'r fought against the Dominion during the great war which would make the Dominion hiring them extremely unusual.3) coming from personal experience in Saadias case I find people that secretive (especially women) are rarely trustworthy.

  • Midori Dad

    I always felt she was guilty because of the two stories. The Warriors looking for her story added up way too good. I kill her every time.

  • Pumpkin Smasher

    Saadia pays you 600 septims for not turning her inAlikr warriors only give you 150 for itShes innocent as far as my wallet is concerned

  • Laura Te Aho-White

    "Don't allow yourself to be fooled by a UGLY face. You're better than that" - KematuKematu is my homie.

  • Earl

    In the next elder scrolls i hope they add an Easter egg that explains her fate. Whither it be in a ledger or book or idle chatter.

  • Fuchs Raeude

    Kematu could also play a role while you're standing there (about Saadia being manipulative) for my ears. Who says that Saadia's family would not disown her if she has betrayed the city of Taneth. Plus, travelling with bodyguards makes it much harder to remain undetected. That would just be unwise.

  • Emojiii

    I've realised that in my Skyrim gameplay there are no female guards!!!

  • John Q Public

    Only place I would take Saadia is poundtown.

  • jtomally9681

    Personally, I think Saadia is innocent. The whole thing is a twisted work from both ends.

  • Matthew Hilliker

    I still think Kematu could be lieing at the end. He says they won't kill her but he could be saying that to stop you from alerting the guards.If they were going to kill her they wouldn't do it in plain view of the city guards. Especially since the guards are already against the Ali'kr in the first place. So they lie to you, say she will not be harmed. You go on your marry way while they take her away to a secluded area and kill her.And the reason why he gets mad at you for killing her is that all this time was wasted effort. They spent so much time planning out how to kill her and then here you come slashing your sword at a defenseless woman like a maniac.I mean you'd get pretty upset too if you spent a lot of time planning something only for it to be for nothing.

  • The Funny Dovakhiin

    Eso you always have interest video but when are you going to Do another lets play could you do a morrowind one I think it would be interesting. For some reason idk if its just me you sound different in this video

  • Arc66

    I just kill both sides, problem solved.

  • Pratim Gupta

    Side with Alikr and Stormcloaks. Bring in the Argonians as Support.Time for another Alliance war

  • Commander Xananymous

    You know what is the easiest choice in this quest.....kill both of them after you get a reward from one of them

  • SAD BOY BEATS

    What's the name of that graphics mod and is it on xbox

  • Anti-HyperLink

    Is there special dialogue if you play as a Redguard woman?

  • Gregory Auger

    But wait, didn't taneth fall to the aldmeri? If she's brought back to face justice for her treason, Is it from The Aldmeri who are running the show in Taneth?

  • qwertyMrJINX

    Is it really so hard to re-record when you flub a line?

  • Paarthurnax master of the voice

    Then kematu has to die cause they want to kill a more or less helpless lady

  • Lame Guy

    The thot pulled out a knife on me so I turned her in

  • Connor Nicholas

    Siding with the Alik'r is faster, but siding with Saadia makes the quest's story longer and more enjoyable. Even so, I think I might go against Saadia next time.

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